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Unknown scarlet HT


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Unknown Scarlet HT
Unknown Scarlet HT  
QUESTION: I have a very beautiful hybrid tea rose that I rescued from a house that was to be removed and do not know the name.  This rose is scarlet color with about 24 petals, has very good substance on the plant and as a cut flower, is high centered, has a moderate fragrance.  As the petals age, they are a little more dark pink-red with the underside a little lighter, shiner pink red.  The plant is vigorous, about 5-6 feet, and a good bloom producer all summer and fall.
The foliage is small to moderate and semi-glossy dark green.  The prickles are about 1/4 to 3/8 inches, sharp, brown in color, and pointed down on the stem.
The plant seems to highly disease resistant with only minor blackspot.
I suspect this rose was introduced quite a long time ago--certainly no later than the 1990's and probably the 1980's, 1970's, or earlier.  I have not seen it in either the Portland or Eugene rose gardens, nor in any rose catalogues from the last number of years.
I live on the central Oregon coast about 2 miles from the Pacific Ocean.  The nearest large city is Eugene, OR, 60 miles to the east.
I will try to attach some digital pictures of this plant that were taken this summer and late fall.  (Looks like only 1 pic can be attached.  Please contact me at e-mail address to receive pics of the leaves and when the blooms age.)
I would really appreciate your expertise in identifying this rose.

ANSWER: Every year there are more than 200 roses introduced by the breeders or the rose nurseries. Many of the red hybrid teas look the same. Even many of the floribundas or modern shrubs also are difficult to tell appart. It is impossible to identify a rose unless there was something very unique about the colour, shape or growth pattern. The only way they can make sure the identification of a rose is correct, is by using dna testing. The picture of your rose could be the name of many hybrid teas.Sorry I couldn't help.

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QUESTION: Thanks Lynette.  Understand but was hoping with the detail given, might have a shot at it.  One other detail I didn't mention that may be somewhat unique is that the prickles are fairly bright red on a young cane but later turn to a light brown...
Is there any dichotomous key or other reference I could use to continue my search??

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Other ideas could be to see what red roses were popular around the time you think the rose was bought. Maybe it was purchased from a garden center or even a rose nursery close by. If it was a good rose then a rose nursery may remember it or could even still be selling it. Also get in touch with the rose society in your area and see if anyone has a rose the same as your description. Gardeners who are really into roses are sometimes the best people to get clues or information from when you are searching for a rose. So many really goodv roses are lost and never get the recognition they ddeserve because of lack of proper advertising. That has all changed now, but back when your rose was introduced, many were lost.

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